Join Tony Craddock as he sits down with Steve Round, chair of the Ecology Building Society and co-founder of SaaScada, who delves into how integrating ESG factors can redefine the financial services industry. He discusses the unique challenges and opportunities facing legacy banks and fintechs in making genuinely inclusive financial products that cater to all income levels. Steve advocates for financial inclusivity over mere inclusion, emphasising that true change requires providing first-class banking services to all, irrespective of economic status. This conversation is a deep dive into the practical steps financial institutions can take to not only support sustainability but to foster a banking environment that contributes positively to society and the planet.